Monday, February 21, 2005

Google invests in town that has invested in itself

The Oregonian announced that Google has decided to locate at least one high-tech facility with good-paying jobs in a rural Oregon town that had the guts to invest in itself. Many other places had access to some of the same tax incentives and other amenities. What Port Dulles had that set it apart was fiber....
Rural Oregon's investment in high-speed Internet access is beginning to pay dividends.

On Wednesday, Google Inc. agreed to pay $1.87 million for 30 acres of industrial-zoned land at the Port of The Dalles. Officials in Wasco County expect the Internet search engine giant to bring to the Columbia River Gorge community between 50 and 100 jobs paying an average of $60,000 annually in wages and benefits, twice the county's average income.
And they've got options on 3 other tracts in the region.

The Googles of the new economy have to have fast, cheap broadband. Communities that want to attract them have to have fiber.


Neal Breakfield said...

It's a little scary... thinking of government getting into an entrepreneurial role is something that we were all kind of taught in civics that government doesn't do. Government doesn't compete with the private sector.

- Joey Durel, Campaign 2003

Anonymous said...

Off topic. Move along. Nothing to see here.

John said...

Folks, this is typical of Neal and, I have to say, the folks at Fiber411. If you'll scroll down you'll see that Neal, instead of actually responding to any of the article or commentary just repeats himself 18 times. It's a tantrum; the (im)moral equivalent of pissing on a neighbor's wall because he said something you didn't like.

It would be easier to develop some respect for these guys if they'd show some for themselves.

Likely what Neal is responding to is the cascade of silent support made visible that Joey Durel's call to action makes visible. And likely LPF is a target because he doesn't like what I say in response to yesterday's nonsequiter of a post. (See

He can't answer real questions. He just continues to parrot whatever the last angry thing he or some handler feeds him.

I'll repeat what is obviously a futile plea: Start answering real questions. Quit mouthing nonsense.

I'm out of patience with these guys.

GumboFilé said...

I am opposed to the city-parish proposal to allow LUS to compete against existing business. This is a principled philosphical position and I resent it being characterized as being opposed to the people of Lafayette. What I am opposed to is the city-parish overstepping its bounds at the expense of the people of Lafayette.

John said...


I am puzzled as to what in this post you are reacting to. As I scan this thread I don't see anyone saying that.

As long as you bring it up...

Do you think we ought to get out of the provision of water too? After all Lafayette is competing with Dasani water. I am sure the owner of that brand, Coca Cola, another good Atlanta company, would back you 100%.

Neal Breakfield said...

Hey John:

People who can beat the message don't waste time trying to beat up the messenger.

WE have thick skin. You have no message.

The community's RIGHT to vote on this is not a luxury, it is a necessity. It is the law.

You want to break the law to ensure that you get your way.

You are entitled to your opinion, but if you try to break the law to infringe on OUR rights, WE can and will do something about it.

And no amount of insults will dissuade US from it.

GumboFilé said...

I don't suggest that LUS get out of the water business. I just want them to be satisfied with the power they have and to refrain from enlarging it. However, since you bring it up, I can't help but point out that LUS has a de-facto monopoly on tap-delivered water, they sell it at below market price, and yet so many people are willing to pay a premium for bottled water that it's become a big business. I wonder why that is.

John said...


Ok so wev'e established that it is not a matter of principle. You are not really against LUS competing against buisness.

You are only against them competing against Atlanta-based businesses that sell telecom (But ok with competeing against Atlanta-based business that sell water.)

And LUS does not have a "defacto" monopoly on tap water. It has an actual, _natural_ monopoly. Read up on the concept of Natural Monopoly it a critically important fact of economics that you just don't get.

GumboFilé said...
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GumboFilé said...

You continue to arrogantly mischaracterizing my position as if you think you know my position better than I do.

As I've said, I'm against the LCG expanding their power beyond where it is currently. If there were another company already providing tap water, and LUS was not already providing tap water, then, yes, I would be opposed to them expanding their power by getting into the tap water business. However, that is not the case, is it?

Please, continue to be an asshole. It helps your opposition.

Neal Breakfield said...


You are absolutely right about one thing: I was rude and I apologize. No excuses. I apologize to you and all the other users for spamming your site.

It will not happen again... with one exception: I will post this where I spammed in hopes that it will clear the air.

I want what I think most of us want: a meaningful, informative and civil discussion where all sides can be heard.

John said...


Thanks, that's a gracious and straightforward apology.


We all get wound a mite tighter than is good for us at times. Myself included.